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Staying Cool, Calm, and Collected with Dr. Nester Rodriguez CEO Carbon World Health

Podcast Published On: 03.04.2019
Found In: Leadership

Episode Summary

Keeping cool, calm and collected

So I can’t think of a spot that is necessary to stay cool, calm, and collected more than the emergency room, especially the doctors and nurses that are there. Uh, because it’s gotta be utter chaos. I can only imagine. I’ve been there a couple times. Uh, one was an unfortunate accident and my friend did pull through, but I remember being there and, and uh, just utter chaos as the med flight comes in. A, touch and go scenario with two different individuals and, uh, talk a little bit about that and why it’s so important there. Um, I think we can all tell a little bit why, but really how that translate into other people around you.

About Dr. Nester Rodriguez, CEO Carbon World Health

Dr. Nestor Rodriguez is a board certified emergency medicine physician and the Medical Director of Carbon World Health. Dr. Rodriguez is a unique blend of intellect, personality, hard work and perseverance. He emigrated from El Salvador to the inner city of south central Los Angeles at the age of seven. Despite coming from a single parent Spanish only speaking home, Dr. Rodriguez successfully became the first person in his family to obtain a high school degree. He graduated from the prestigious Loyola High School in Los Angeles. He subsequently earned his undergraduate degree in the challenging field of Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology at Yale University. After graduating with honors and multiple academic awards, Dr. Rodriguez followed his dream to study medicine.

Dr. Rodriguez received his doctorate in medicine at the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health, where he found a passion for sports medicine, cosmetic procedures, and emergency medicine. Thereafter, he was part of the inaugural class of the University of Wisconsin emergency medicine residency program. In 2010, after serving as a Chief Resident, Dr. Rodriguez joined the faculty in the Department of Emergency Medicine at the University of Wisconsin as the Assistant Residency director. Within two years, he had already been nominated for the “Assistant Residency Director of the Year” award. In 2014, he was awarded the “Faculty Teaching” award from the Council of Emergency Medicine Residency Directors.

After a successful academic career, Dr. Rodriguez elected to go into private practice. During this time, he has been fortunate to travel and work with some of the top cosmetic, anti-aging, and sport medicine physicians in the country. From these experiences, he has developed a strong interest in developing an innovative and holistic approach to helping people look and feel their very best.

Dr. Nestor Rodriguez

Dr. Nestor Rodriguez

CEO Carbon World Health

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Episode Transcription

Introduction: Welcome to the Inspire People Impact Lives podcast. This podcast is for people who are looking to get more out of life by making an impact on those around them. Each week we bring you local influential business and community leaders delivering powerful messages to help you live a more inspiring and impactful life coming to you live from Northwestern Mutual Middleton. Here’s your host, Josh Kosnick.

Josh: Welcome to another episode of Inspire People Impact Lives. Today we have Dr Nester Rodriguez joining us. Uh, we’re going to talk about staying calm, cool and collected. But first let me introduce Nestor. Good friend. He is a board certified emergency medicine physician and the Medical Director at Carbon World Health. After a successful academic career Dr. Rodriguez elected to go into private practice. He has a unique blend of intellect, personality, hard work and perseverance. I do find it fun to introduce a good friend like that in the, in the bio and uh, talk about intellect, hardworking, perseverance. Uh, I absolutely agree with those things, but it’s just fun to read off a piece of paper to, to introduce a friend and see, man, you’re not that smart sometimes.

Nester: And thanks for having me, Josh. I appreciate the opportunity on here and I would like to say, yeah, those are all true and probably should add it a couple more, but we’ll let it slide for now.

Josh: I appreciate that. So today we’re going to talk about staying calm, cool and collected and why it’s so important in the emergency room and then as a business owner when you’re now dealing with life or death, how that has translated. So I can’t think of a spot that is necessary to stay cool, calm, and collected more than the emergency room, especially the doctors and nurses that are there. Uh, because it’s gotta be utter chaos. I can only imagine. I’ve been there a couple times. Uh, one was an unfortunate accident and my friend did pull through, but I remember being there and, and uh, just utter chaos as the med flight comes in. A, touch and go scenario with two different individuals and, uh, talk a little bit about that and why it’s so important there. Um, I think we can all tell a little bit why, but really how that translate into other people around you.

Nester: Right? And, and it is so I tell people when they ask me what’s emergency medicine, it’s, it’s organized chaos. And so it, you know, one of the interesting parts in medicine that we, I think we do do well is that the careers long before you’re let by herself and the reason you do this because you have to learn all those techniques on how to do it. One, we all have biases. We all have triggers that whether we like to admit them or not, we have to recognize. And that was one of the things I talked a lot about in, in academia was you could think of the right or wrong, whatever in my, your upbringing caused you that. And you have to say, and you have to admit to them, and then had to find ways on how to deal with that. So in the emergency department, that’s with emergency medicine.

Nester: That’s actually one of the main reasons. When students are asking me, should I go in or not, I’m like, how do you deal with stress if you can’t deal with stress then you’re gonna kill yourself going into emergency medicine? If you’re okay with going with the flow all hell my break loose, one day you might, a patient might die on you and you have to walk in and save someone else and you can do that then emergency medecine is a place for you. But with medicine you get put in these hierarchy situation, get put in these situations slowly and slowly. So you start building that. But even, you know, the good emergency medicine doctors, I would say take it to the next step. So for me, you have to stay calm because one, you’re the highest one there. You’re carrying the MD, you know, it’s not just massive debt is also a medical director.

Nester: So they’re all looking at you. Um, so in your brain, you know, there’s many a times where I’m like, man, what’s going on with, why isn’t this working? I’m rethinking, thinking all these tools. But you got to go back to like, hey one, you have the foundation, you need it, right? That’s why this career so long and you freaking out doesn’t help anyone else in that situation that’s there. So you have to keep calm. The other thing I always tell people in the emergency department is no one’s happy to see us. And that’s one thing that I can’t tell you the last time I got thanked in the emergency department, by a patient.

Josh: I would think that would be like the uterus, save someone’s life, the family members are there or whether it’s a baby or there’s an adult, whatever it may be. I think like of all places that might be a place where a doctor might get thanked.

New Speaker: Cause you, you think of a, if they’re having their worst day of their life, right? So they’re not thinking about you, they’re thinking about whatever they’re going through that’s there. And as a doctor coming in and out, nurses spend more time with you. And so if you’re going to thanks, someone it’s the last person you see rather than that and often not, you know, medicine is medicine. I can’t, they can’t avoid the pain. I can’t get you back to where you were before in a second. A lot of times it’s just chaotic, but that’s where emotion is truly come out. And I use it as teaching to nurses and to students or to residents where I’m like they yelled at you, they called you a name, they did all these things.

Nester: But that’s probably not what they mean. That’s just how they interact or how they deal with stressful situations. You know, I’ve had times where they’ll come back and say, Hey, I’m sorry I was, I acted that way. Um, and I think for me that, that helps me in all aspects of life because I recognize, hey, we’re not all, we’re not perfect and we all mess up. But in society, you know, you could spread a rumor and people will believe it. If someone’s doing something good, it takes 30 people to tell you that before you start believing it, unfortunately. So how do you get through with that? So in medicine I could do it and it was great and that’s what I taught. And so I thought I was an expert in dealing with that. I recognize what biases I had. You know, I recognize that other people had different biases like myself.

Nester: We had people, residents that were in shape, and I still remember this conversation. He’s like, man, how do you do it? I can’t deal with the fat people or big people. Now I’m here. Like any other doctor would have said, how dare you as a doctor think that way? But the reality was this person’s all about fitness. They cared about the body and they thought, because your big is why you have all these medical problems and not thinking, well yeah, but do you know their situation? Do you know how they got there? So I would tell him, hey, before you go in the room, tell yourself, hey, I, I don’t like this. I don’t like the situation and leave it down the door and keep going and now do what you’re paid to do. So in the hospital for me, honestly because of the training, it became easy outside of the hospital is where I had to implement those own rules that I was teaching or those own lessons to myself, both personally and in the business world.

Josh: So that’s, that’s a really good thought there. Uh, I think a lot of people struggle with that as they, uh, and even sometimes myself is I can deal with stress and problems in the workplace where we have guardrails. Whereas for the most part we know what’s moral. We know what’s right or wrong, especially in like an HR type situation. Uh, if you have boundaries, sometimes you don’t keep those boundaries when you go home with your spouse or kids or friends even for that matter. So how did you learn to maybe a mistake that you made and how, how’d you learn to adapt what you’re adapting at work into your home life?

Nester: So, you’re right in saying that so for me, I always say in terms of how to stay calm and cool collected, you’re always learning because you’re always learning for people said the biggest things for me were at home. For example. I know what happens when I’m not cool, calm, collected. So recognizing, so because growing up I couldn’t show emotion, I couldn’t let people know that I was hurting or that we didn’t eat or that you know, my mom was struggling. My thing is to retreat and I know that. To retreat and you’re like, don’t worry about it. Don’t talk to me for three days. And, and that’s not the best. Right? So it took a huge personal situation that kind of put me into depression to realize, all right, this retreat, normally I can bounce back. But when you get to a dark spot or a situation, you need other people to get you out.

Nester: And that’s for me, the okay being vulnerable to say, Hey, you have to, you need help at that point. And learning that. So a book Bernay Brown and people have heard her talk about vulnerability. And it’s funny because if I would’ve heard her at the height of my academic career, I would have been like, yeah, whatever this is, this is for people that are weak and that’s what people think versus after I went, what I went through, it was like, man, if I would have learned this a long time ago it could’ve helped tremendously. So in the home is, is recognizing whether you’re single, whether you’re married, is surrounding yourself with people that you truly trust and recognizing that those people are you might not like what they tell you, that they have your best interests in mind. So recognizing, Hey, I’m about to do this.

Nester: I’m about to push everyone away. How do I stop it? Right? Because the same thing in the emergency department, I’m freaked out. I don’t know what’s going on, but I can’t just leave the room. I got to stay in there and fight with the team and work with the team and figure it out. And in the emergency department, I have no problems. Even if the janitors in there being like, Hey, do you have any thoughts? Because in my department the janitors are, or all these other, if they’re like, man, I saw this doctor, try this and if that cures, it’s sweet, let’s do it right. There’s no, um, so why can’t I do that in my personal space? Because you, you’re going to be, you’re going to show that you don’t know something and you’re going to be scared.

Nester: But those are the people that you should do that with. So I try to surround myself with people that I actually, that I value their opinions, whether I like it or not. But, for me is teaching people like, Hey, when you’re seeing those things are coming out in you, all right, put a stop because you recognize you have the skillset and as soon as you get that help, there’s no challenge you really can’t overcome. But people don’t really talk about that. Right. They’ll all the, the grind in the business. That. Honestly to me it was the hardest thing because one I come from medical side where things are, you know, a goes to b to goes to c goes to d and everyone follows suit and everyone does what they’re supposed to do. There’s a hierarchy business all hell breaks loose, you don’t know you have a business plan, but what does that really mean?

Nester: Right? That’s on paper to get money and funding but like what actually happens from the employee to the client and interesting enough from a medical perspective where I’m helping people, we take that to heart like when we don’t have, are able to save someone where and we have to internalize and deal with it in business. The hardest thing for me was take that emotion out and I had to surround myself around leaders that were like, you’re thinking with emotions and, and it’s true, right? If it’s, if, if you make business decisions based on business, it should be black and white, but it’s not that, right? You have people, you have people’s lives in there, you have all these other things that you have to overcome and go through. So again, there it’s like what are the trigger points for me that I know I’m going to act dumb or make a stupid decision that I’m going to regret? Who are the people that I can confide on during those moments? And then how do I constantly overcome?

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Nester: Hey, you can get over it. The other thing that why you have to stay Kinda cool, calm, collected is I think the leaders of the best. If you want to become a leader, you have to do that. You have to listen rather than speak. And you have to be able to sit there in silence and comfort and think it through before you say something. Because again, similar to the, hey, they’ll believe a rumor over truth to overcome something negative is going to take you a hundred times longer than a positive that the next week that no one’s going to remember for you. So you got to constantly kind of keep thinking about that. Um, and kind of implementing some of those. So I look at like what would I do in the emergency department because to me that’s white and black, there’s no problems with that. But continually I have to do that in family and work situations is tough.

Josh: Yeah, very tough. Because what I’ve found is everyone follows your energy. So if your energy is freaking out, everyone else is going to freak out. And that’s obviously not a good scenario for anyone involved.

Nester: Right. And any, you know, not to bring like just the medical aspect of it. But stress does play a huge toll now when we’re looking, you know, with Carbon World Health where you can cause like the progressive type medicine, right? So for us, the way I speak to my patients and clients, is different than I used to in an academic setting where it’s I’m the doctor, you’re the patient. It might not be the case for everyone, but you know, that’s the environment I was in. Versus now I’m seeing them like, Hey, I have the real same challenges you do. Right? How many times have you gone to a doctor’s office? They say, eat well, exercise. Well, the question is, do you exercise and eat well to the doctor? You’d be surprised how many don’t or further yet. If it’s that easy, we wouldn’t have any of these problems.

Nester: Right? And then the excuses, I don’t have time including myself, but it’s like how do you do that? Because stress plays a psychological role, plays a physiological role in your health. And if you want to be successful for a long time, you better be able to manage that. You didn’t make it to the top and then you’re going to die it two years later because stress is killing you. You gotta be able to manage that. And I think the good leaders you see that where they’re like, they’re so calm, cool, collected, and you’ll talk to them. They’re like, oh, I was freaking out in my brain. I didn’t know what to do in there, but I didn’t show it. Therefore I wasn’t freaked out about it. Um, so you know, it’s unique, especially as an entrepreneur. You always hear that, right? And I always hear podcasts myself. I’m like yeah, that’s just them. Oh yeah, it’s cool you did it. But in fact, you just hearing it and you keep hearing it from people and you keep believing it. It gives you hope that, yeah, it is actually, everyone’s going through it is just people don’t talk about those struggles. And what did they do to keep calm? It’s the same thing. They look to other, they knew their triggers and then use the same lessons you have in whatever you think you’re the environment you’re most comfortable in. Those uncomfortable situations and things will succeed.

Josh: It was interesting that you talked about those biases earlier. I think I told you the story but I went to see my general physician and uh, he’s like, wow, you’re body composition has changed quite a bit. Your blood work looks great and an he’s saying but uh, when I described the workouts terminus a bit, but what do you do for cardio and a to him his bias was cardio was long bike rides, long runs, not the high intensity interval training that we do and some of the weights that we do at a high level. It was just interesting to hear that bias come out from him and reflect upon it.

Nester: Right? It’s a different space, right? We’re taught the medical part of it. And now we in medicine we’re at a point, where we treat diseases and you know now it’s preventative cause a lot of these diseases that we didn’t have before or even younger and younger and people are thinking about it differently and it’s our mentality and how things are, are, are changing the problems that have existed. But it’s how we deal with it now. Everyone’s like, we don’t have time. It’s go, go, go, go, go. And it’s how do you deal with it right now it’s social media. That’s where, you know, keeping calm, cool, collected, adds another dilemma that I wasn’t used to. So at the hospital, I remember we had I still remember this with my chair at that time, she’s like, you got to delete your Facebook. I’m like why. And she’s like, well you’re a doctor, you represent UW and you can’t do that.

Nester: And I was a resident at this time and I’m like, I’m not gonna do that. And my family’s not here. Everyone’s in El Salvador. That’s my only way. Now what I forget is I’m still a doctor. Whether I’m with you and some remote island getting crazy or here two people or in the hospital. Right. And in people’s opinions. Is it fair? No. But did I choose it? Yeah. Chose to be a doctor and I have to oblige by it. And so I understood that now as a business owner, social media, and it was easy to shut off because it’s like, oh, whatever, okay, I won’t show pictures of me being crazy fine. As a business owner where you’re trying to market yourself, you’re trying to promote your business, you see every picture, and I don’t know, Facebook does this, but it throws your competitors in your face every single day.

Nester: And those pictures make it seem like they’re killing it or they’re the greatest. And you’re constantly reminded like, oh, you didn’t go to that meeting. They probably did. Oh, you didn’t get that client. They probably did. And then you recognize, you’re like, no, I know these businesses. I know a competitors. And it’s not either having the same struggle as we are, but social media paints this picture cause no one’s putting, well some people do, but the majority of people in social media, it’s a happy life. Like no one has problems, right? So you start, you start making your own problems bigger than what they are. And I think that’s one of the things, that staying, cool, calm, collective. Like there hasn’t been a problem that people haven’t dealt with it’s just maybe not people that, you know, how do you figure that out? How do you trust to go talk to other people?

Nester: Uh, for me it was go to people in other industries because the problems are the same. Whether Yours and finance or me in the medical or fitness, the core of how you react or the same. But then I don’t feel threatened in that, hey, you’re going to take my fitness idea or hey, you’re going to think we suck. Cause it has nothing to do with it. Um, for it. And so, or because you’re your own business, you’re so passionate about it that you’re afraid somehow people are going to be like, yeah, his idea is not that good or he’s not that passionate. And at least for me personally, that’s always like a, what am I talking about now? I believe now I believe the day where I’m like, ah, we failed or we didn’t do this. Then you start seeing on social media like, they did, you start creating these scenarios in your head that don’t exist and you need someone else to get you out of those.

Nester: And that’s where it kind of surrounding yourself or even truthfully telling you like is this, this is just in my head. Um, and one of the biggest things I looked at that I learned recently actually, and I got it from a podcast from um, Tony Robbins was like, he calls it, I think 1515 seconds of talk shit is what I think you caught. Pardon my language. But he’s like, if you have a problem, alright, spent 15 minutes, go do whatever you need to do. Call yourself, you’re suck you, sorry. Banging your head on that it, we’ll do whatever you do and then move on and go deal with something else. So I try to practice that. Again, it’s hard, but you got to keep practicing these lessons you learn so that you can do it. Otherwise you’re gonna forget.

Josh: And I had a business coach who’s a neuroscientist in the past when you could, cause this is your area, not mine, but I think I’m remembering correctly that the small piece of your brain, the Amygdala, which is kind of our negativity our fight or flight part of our brain, is magnifying negativity by like 200, 200%.

Nester: Yeah. I don’t know the percentage, but it does and in the same way that when you talk about stress, your cortisol levels go through the roof. So people, uh, now it’s more stressful and more things like even what people don’t think is stress is stress. And so one of the big things that, and you probably, you’ve seen me around that I preach and I tell people, Hey, I’m not the best at this, but I’m trying to get is leep. And so as a doc, you know, I chose a career. So people that doctors that complain about their life, I’ll say it publicly, I don’t feel sorry for them. We get in our fancy cars and we go home, we get in her fancy houses. So like, yeah, we got debt, but we were okay. Um, then sleep is a situation of like, how do you shut down and what do you do cause stress.

Nester: And if you haven’t slept, that’s a bad combination. Now you throw medications, now you throw medical prompts, you throw family issues. It’s just a rough recipe for disaster. So one is taking care of yourself first with healthy eating, um, with working out and with sleeping well, decrease all those hormonal or physiological responses. And we don’t know, honest, even doctors that we studied this, if it’s not in our field, in emergency medicine, we thought about it and like flight or flight, right? Trauma. Like just how you mentioned it. At Carbon World Health? I think about it. Okay. What are the long terms? Why can’t you sleep? Why are you having marital problems? Why are you having sexual dysfunction problems? Why aren’t you working out? Right. And that’s why I call it progressive. Because as a doc don’t teach you that you’re supposed to think here’s a problem, here’s a solution figured out, go, go after it.

Nester: Versus now thinking in general, how do you do that? Um, and you have to think at every aspects of it, do I get eight hours of sleep? No. And when I do go to sleep are the business problems in my head, yes. So I got to figure out how do I get out of that. And for me, it’s reading a book that has nothing to do with anything. Just something cool, whatever. Just to read. And even I first started doing that and it was self help books or business books. There’s no way you’re going to put me to sleep after I read about a business book because all I’m going to do is apply those principles to look at my business. So now it’s just random stuff in terms of doing it. But you do need that sleep to kind of keep surviving and doing that stuff.

Nester: And a lot of people don’t sleep at all or don’t sleep well.

Josh: So what are some of your tricks besides reading a book that would help someone, go to sleep that’s outside of the medicine fix.

Nester: And so for sleep, so you know there’s a pharmaceuticals are out there, right? They push their medications and I think medications are good in certain situations. Um, where you, you really have reached a point, there is a point I believe medically where if you haven’t slept you need intervention medically to get you into a sleeping pattern. So I can bring personally, you know that example when I was going through depression, I think I went four days without sleep, like literally not sleeping and I didn’t care and I didn’t, I was like, fine, I’m going to live. And it was people looking at me like, oh my God, you look crazy. And I compare my pictures during that time and what I look like now, It’s a whole different world of tire at that point.

Nester: Yeah you do new medications that you need professional help. In the average case it’s shutting all these things of stress, like our phones, right? There are studies of like hum, just the buzzing. Do you really right now I have this ESPN app that like I think I should breakmy phone because of it, because every little news buzz, buzz, and whether I pick up my phone or I don’t, that buzz has distracted me, has caused stress. And why did it cause stress? Just cause I who’s on my phone, right? So what we tell people at Carbon is all distractions in those distractions can vary for me. Um, light doesn’t bother me for Ashley for example, any little light bothers her and we always get in arguments at night where, she’s like that light of the switch that’s in the kitchen bothering me. I’m like, I don’t know what to do.

Nester: So what we got her is now those uh, sleeping, um, shades or mask that are there and you know, I got her four or five, of them now. She wears them on there and then she’s comfortable. The other thing is the temperature wise usually, you know, scientifically they studied or medically if it’s a colder environment, you can sleep better. And I think that has to do with the comfort of your snuggling under sheets and stuff like that. So that has nothing to do. Even the lonely person that doesn’t have anyone around, hey, take comfort in the sheets and sleep there. Making sure it’s dark, making sure those lights and then just becoming a routine before you go to bed because your brain is wired. I get to the, I get, you know, I do late shifts and when I get home, yeah I’m tired but my brain hasn’t shut down.

Nester: So what do I have to do? Whether it’s a, I’m going to wash my face, I’m going to brush my teeth, I’m going to shower these routines, get your brain into thinking, okay, I’m going to do it. It’s no different than when we work out. Right. When you’re warming up, why do you warm up? Well, it’s for muscles, but it’s also you’re mentally preparing to do whatever you’re gonna do when you go into meeting, when you were reviewing things, you’re mentally preparing when you go see a client. So we do all of that preparing and all the repetitive routine things for everything other than ourselves and our health and stress. Exactly. Exactly. And you got to think about it. The hardest part is thinking about the plan comes easy. It’s just not, what’s that intention and what’s that intention for you?

Nester: So what might work for me? It’s not going to work for you or vice versa. Right. What I do before a stressful situation or what I do when I get called names or what I do when someone says, Hey, he’s not that great of a doctor. Ashley tells me so wave it off. Who Cares? They don’t even know you. Me, I’m like, I spent 15 years of my life. I have all the awards that I could have and all the degrees, and you’re gonna say I’m not good. I take it personal. Right. And then it’s like, how do you deal with that? And the reality has come as like, hey, there’s always going to be someone that’s going to be talking bad in that, but like they don’t know you. So you don’t know if they meant to do that because they’re having a bad day.

Nester: So who cares? Don’t worry about that. Figure out what’s going to work for you and ask people how does that work? So for me, it’s, my mentor as been as a doc, cause that, honestly, that was one of the things that to this day bugs me. And so my mentor is in the medical field. They’re like, all right, let it bug you. And then say, are they adopted? They don’t understand your life now. All right, moving on. And just by saying that, I’m like, yeah, cool. If for some reason, psychologically, mentally, everything calms down and you move forward.

Josh: That’s really good. You think about being President of the United States could be seen as one of the highest positions in the world. Then maybe some people’s eyes, the highest position in the world. And you think about that, uh, under President Obama, about 50% of the country hated his guts from 50% loved him. And you look at it under president Trump, it’s about the same. And so maybe we need a few more people to hate us or think we’re not good because obviously there they’ve done some things right to get to that, to that level of politics anyhow. But there you’re, you’re always gonna have those haters.

Nester: And that’s what I was saying with the, you know, if you look at black and if you’re able to keep emotions out or stress down, decisions can be made a little bit easier. And I think you don’t get that til you’re higher up in leadership because those leadership, they’ve made those tough moves already. So that emotional side, it’s almost detached. The Presidency offers an interesting thing cause you’re right, I mean, uh, not to talk politics or anything, but like Donald Trump, he recently, they’d say, hey, when I went into it, I thought I would run this country as a business. And he admitted, he’s like, that’d be easy because honestly, you take the emotion out of everything, then that’s fine, but that’s not how you do things and emotions. People are there, right? So then it starts complicating things and then you’re put in situations, it’s not an easy, hey, I like it or I don’t like it. Um, so it’s a little more complex than that. And now you take it to your own life. Honestly, I, I don’t care what Trump’s doing right now when I’m in my situation and my problem. So you gotta take care of yourself and then you’re going to move forward in term like that. And that’s a dilemma in itself. Cause I want to help people. I want to do things, but if I’m not in state to help people, I can’t. So I got to apply those same principles or whatever situation I’m in.

Josh: So I think there’s really good, I want to, I mean, I could imagine someone that’s listening say, but how do you mean? What do you mean you don’t care? You’re an immigrant, you’re business owner, you’re a leader. In this community, how could you say you that you don’t care what Trump is doing and how do you separate those two things. I could just hear someone saying that, uh, you know, that’s listening to this and what would you say to them?

Nester: So I would say, so you got to, again, putting it into what context we’re talking about. Do I care? Do I want, so my biggest, if you’re going to say weakness is because of the way I grew up. If you need my shirt right now, I’ll give it to you. Now. I know people take advantage of that. And so, uh, people ask me, I mean, you know, any, you probably get asked the same thing about, hey, your time, your money, people just think about money, right? I’m gonna I don’t have it like that where people are just asking me to donate money. Hopefully one day I will. But now it’s time is what people are asking. Hey, can you get your time or your connections? Hey, can I get x access to your athletes cause I get athlete, can I get access to your business owners?

Nester: Um, so you’re constantly giving, giving, giving, but you gotta look at that situation. What, what is the thing you’re most worried about that moment and worked on that first. And that was hard for me because even the community here, right? I want to help immigrants. I want to help the kids DACA who, because you know, I was in their boat. I want to help Latinos, I just want to help people. But if I’m not in a situation where I’m helping myself or keeping myself sane or alive, then I can’t. Why bring those problems into my head? And for me, where, where I see it is when I’m doing the nonprofit work, cause I’m like, God, I want to do all these and I want to do all these things but from my patients don’t care what I’m doing. Nonprofit and my patients don’t care about my business when I’m at the hospital.

Nester: So I got to be in at that moment and think about that situation when you see things start clicking. If you look at a successful leader, I’ll show you people that can delegate, that organized and can deal with stressful situations. Therefore they’re everywhere because they can go everywhere. If you’re not to that point, don’t worry about that. I keep my head, I’ve solidified being like, hey, at the end when I die, hopefully I have a legacy that I helped, that I did protest, that I did all that. But this is not the time, this is not what I want to do right now. Um, and to be honest, as an entrepreneur that I used to think it was just like, uh, underrepresented minority thing where people that were broke because it’s only a way up, right? At Yale, we always used to joke around like, where would I be if I had on the money in the world?

Nester: Would I have the same drive or not? I don’t know honestly. It’d probably depend on who I was around and what people cause at. Yeah. We have people that, I mean trust fund kids, right. They made it. They have all their stuff versus in the biggest conversation at first year, my roommate, he’s from Japan. I’m like, man, your loaded, his dad was CEO of a Goldman Sachs and they had their own plane. He went to New York to get a haircut. He, he’s paying 200 bucks. I’m like, what? I convinced them to get a haircut. I messed it up and he never, I think, I think he now pays even more money cause at the third guy, you know, um, but he’s like, I don’t have money. My parents do and if I mess up, I’ve only myself to blame because I have every opportunity in the world.

Nester: And I was like, man, you know, you’re right because I didn’t have anything. So the only way is up. Right? So I can only go, go, go. But you know, when you bought the heater thing, it’s, that’s, that was my thing. I’m going to prove people wrong. I’m going to prove people wrong. You got to get to a point in terms of your career where it’s a fine balance because proving people wrong and I mentor young professionals right now with, that’s all. Like I’m the best. Why? Because I know I’m the best. Well that ain’t gonna cut it. I liked that drive and I tell them keep going, but that’s not gonna cut it. You got to prove that you’re the best. Now you have a good combination so you gotta look at it. Okay, what point in your life are you sitting there like, all right, I’m successful.

Nester: What can I do now? I have everything together. All right now what other things can you give back to and what are the stresses you got to deal with that? Um, because I guarantee you some people do stress or, but like I’m not doing enough for the community cause I do. I’m like I didn’t come from that. I should be giving back. I do these but this is not the time for me to be doing all that. For example, I got to take care of myself to help other people and then you keep moving forward and forward. If you’re at a point where like, man, I don’t know where to go and entrepreneurship is, it’s crazy. No one asked. Think about entrepreneurship and I would guarantee the majority of people, when you say entrepreneur, they think tech, tech, tech, tech, tech, tech, tech, no offense the tech guys, and I wish I was tech savvy.

Nester: Those guys go from a millionaire for like one day to the next. They can’t right. And everyone says, Hey, I failed. I failed, I failed, and I’ve listened to these podcasts and I’ve been like, yeah, that’s easy for you to say because now you’re Google, now you’re the last was a CEO of Skype. He’s like, well, I failed and I had this drive and don’t worry to fail. Realistically I’m this listener. There’s like, yeah, cool, but you had the minute to do that and he had the knowledge base. I’m no where there now I’m in a different industry that’s there, and for me it’s all right, where am I now? What am I struggling with the most and what lessons do I have to learn if I can’t deal with stress, there’s experts about it. If I can’t pay for it, guess what? Just go sit somewhere and see how you, how people interact and take away what good things you want to take away from that and what bad things you want to take away.

Nester: And that’s what I tell residents for the doctors. I don’t tell them become me. I’m like, look at what I do well and if you can do that, by all means, look at what I do bad. And if you can do better than me do it. I don’t want to make you into my own mold. And but a lot of it is, is like okay, where are knowing yourself and if you don’t know that, then I can give you all the lessons. I can give you one through 10 but if you don’t want to admit where you’re at, it’s going to be tough to apply those things too.

Josh: So I know we’re wrapping up and I want to make sure we’re respectful of your time. So, uh, because I know that you work with such high level athletes, high school, collegiate, professional, uh, in all different sports. What do you do? Advice wise to get them to be cool, calm, and collected.

Nester: So if for for them is one we teach him, I think they get a lot of like, hey, I got to learn the skillset, right? I got to learn how to play the sport or I got to succeed. And what I tell them is once you get to a certain point, you know how to play that sport. I mean you’re, you’re learning the playbook but you’re not telling these professional football players, you know how to play football. You’re getting little kinks and stuff like that. The problem that no one ever teaches them. And I even in college, I remember it was starting to come out of this sport psychology section, which is to people think it’s like foo foo. Because I remember the first session I went to their like you imagine yourself scoring, imagine how you feel. I in reply to, and that was great.

Nester: I took the best nap ever cause you calm me down. But what I tell them is, okay, what are your fears? Or what is what is holding you down because you have all the ability in the world and let’s talk about that. So with the athletes, that’s what we tell them. It’s a fine balance of I can conquer the world. I know I can do it. That should be like, I have all the abilities and I’m not going to lose because I lack ability rather than I got this, I can do this. Then it’s being like, all right, what are you scared about and how do we prevent you from being scared about it? I’m going to lose. So what. You’re going to get hit. Okay. You’re not going to get that award, not this year, but next year you will. And how do you then start working with that? Cause you give me an athlete with talent and has that type of drive. I’ll tell you they’re the all stars they’re the people, right? With your Brady. I was using my, an example to our athletes. I don’t know how old he is. Do you see as routine?

Josh: It’s ridiculous.

Nester: Yeah. Like he does what he needs to do. And as an athlete that’s what you need to do because everyone has talent. But how many guys do we know how talent never made it? It’s probably because they didn’t know how to deal with stress or allowed things that get into them that get in trouble.

Josh: No, absolutely. Absolutely. So want to make sure our listeners know where to find you. What would be the easiest way if a listener had a question?

Nester: And so I would say you, you can kind of go to our website and it’s uh, Or you can email me at So if you remember Carbon World Health you’ll find as you’ll be able to Google it. Our Instagram is carbon world health. Same with our Twitter. And I would say one of the things to look at, um, even if you don’t email, it’s we have a blog page that we provide a lot of this information and you can see from the blog page how we’re looking at medicine at diff. We’re trying to demystify it and actually make it more personal for people and to, and we recognize the reason we succeed in that space is the same reason we succeed in the emergency department. I meet you where you’re at and that’s how you have to meet people. Me telling you, if you haven’t ran to go run 10 miles, it’s not going to happen. I could tell you that. I could write it in a paper. I can even give you a prescription to do it is not going to happen. And so if we meet you where you’re at and let’s get creative of what we need to do, then we’ll succeed together. But they can reach out to any of those.

Josh: Perfect. I want to do a little shameless plug because you and Carbon World Health have truly changed my life, uh, being able to work out, being able to, you know, well actually, I’ll say this. When I first came in, it was to get my ass whooped. I needed a change in my life. Uh, and the, but what I found through the health side of things, in the advice that you’ve given has truly changed my life, and over the last 18 months, this is the best I’ve felt the best I’ve looked since I was in my early twenties. So I can’t thank you enough. Thanks for coming on the show.

Nester: Thanks for having you look like you’re in your twenties.

Josh: It’s still selling. It’s still selling. All right. Thanks again.

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